During their podcasting foreplay Don and Ben discussed their breakfast choices, their love for guacamole (despite the risks
associated with cilantro
), and the
challenge of separating work from private life.
The guys then got onto the recent IAFP annual meeting (abstracts
are here), which clearly was a huge
success. Ben was impressed by Michelle Danyluk’s deconstruction of the FSMA
Fresh Produce rule to create a convincing story, which included recently published work
from Don and Michelle. Ben then talked about the symposium on farmers' markets, and
Erin Jobe’s talk about the realities of the Carrboro Farmer’s Market. Lastly,
the guys talked about the round table discussion on “Bridging Gaps between
Scientific Assessment of Risk and Public Perception” which was reported on Barfblog and Food
Safety News. And of
course, IAFP always includes Karaoke.
Moving on from IAFP, Don noted that he’s
Gruber and Merlin Mann's advice and
is podcasting for just one person, Chuck Haas. Turns
out that Chuck also sent an email about an upcoming publication on the dose-response
curve for Helicobacter pylori (see FST 45).
Ben then recalled the conversation about the Salmonella outbreak associated with the
Holiday Inn and the article he wrote on barfblog. Ben wondered
why employees wouldn’t tell management that they were sick but would tell the
health department? Both Don and Ben concluded that it’s surely related to not
getting paid while being off work.
The discussion then turned to the current Cyclospora messiness and disagreement
between epidemiologists. While
there is lots of bad
advice out there, the
most recent information indicates a link to prewashed
salad mix to Taylor Farms de Mexico, though this
information wasn’t available when ACSH
reported that the “mystery was solved". The
guys also noted Bill
Marler’s interesting thoughts about disclosure as well
as why naming a
product too early can have consequences. The
guys also re-iterating that washed
fresh-cut salads don’t need additional washing.
To finish off, Ben wanted to talk about Jimmy
John’s who are considering bringing back sprouts, with a warning
sign. Don felt that this approach
was nonsense and that the risks of eating still outweigh the risks of not
eating. Instead Don wanted to know about Jimmy John’s food safety program, and
whether it included buying from sprouters who get it, like Bob Sanderson’s at Jonathan Sprouts. Ben
wasn’t against the label though he felt that it could be improved.
In the after dark the guys talked about Don’s
video call with IFT, his
appearance on SSKTN’s Show me your Mic (including
Show me your Mic),
preschool and the Food Safety Talk newsletter.