Once again, Skype and Call Recorder weren’t playing nicely for Ben while Don felt
a bit like Michael Douglas in the Wonder Boys. Don
has been investigating Google Hangouts for running a online live show though Michelle
Danyluk didn’t think they could do a live show at IAFP, unless maybe it was in
the format of an 80’s dating show, like the one on Mallrats.
Ben had some follow up
to his son, Jack, vomiting on a Delta plane reported in Episode
37. While Ben initially thought the etiological
agent was Astrovirus (which would make Jack ‘Astro Boy’) he wasn't sure after feeling the effects a week later. It even stopped Ben from fully enjoying the dinner he had at Fire with Michele.
Ben then had some
follow up about the state ag-gag laws. The guys were concerned about the protective
approach instead of being open and transparent. The latter would also help the agriculture industry to create a greater understanding of food production. And sometimes an exposé (or Exposé) can change things for the better.
In the new Bug Trivia
segment, Don shared some information about Salmonella
pulled together by Carl Custer. It turns out that Salmonella was named after a guy who didn’t discover it and after a
disease that it didn’t cause – go figure.
The discussion then
turned to a Cryptosporidia-related outbreak in Bendigo, Australia. Ben felt that the public health messages in
the article were conflicting (and incorrect). The guys disagreed with the advice that hand
hygiene was important (in this instance) and were more inclined to believe that
it was transmitted through swimming pools. In fact, crypto is a hardly little parasite for which alcohol based sanitizers and even
chlorine aren’t effective.
This reminded Don of a
recent hepatitis A scare and an article that was published in the journal of Food Protection
entitled “Cost Effectiveness of Vaccinating
Food Service Workers against Hepatitis A Infection” which concluded a public health benefit to
hospitality workers, but not patrons. This prompted a broader discussion about Hep
A infected restaurant staff.
The guys then turned
from pastry chefs in restaurants to pastry in Greek university canteens. The guys were concerned about the results,
though Don’s work on ready-to-eat foods in university canteens shows much, much
lower levels. Well, maybe the staff in the Greek university canteens didn’t
have time for training, just like the business that took part in a study by Campden BRI, which indicated that food safety training was hampered by
lack of time. However, Don
and Ben were skeptical about “43% [who] said food safety training was
obstructed by the difficulties of checking the effectiveness of training
Ben then steered to
conversation to writing journal articles and Don’s use of contour plots – he clearly is The
Boss. Don’s contour
plot shows the log increases in Listeria organisms given time and temperature,
from which suitable consumer messages can be created.
Before signing off, the
guys then briefly talked about Doug Powell being fired from Kansas
State for bad attendance and Don expressed his
gratitude for all of Doug’s work, which helped him enormously over the years.
And it looks like Doug’s keen to come on the podcast … so stay tuned.
In the after dark, the
guys talked about toilet paper dispensers for campers, though Ben’s missing the iPhone holder, and
the Apple remote.